Why Trump tariffs have made it impossible to pick stocks
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"Come on, WTF."
For whatever reason, I remember jumping out of my chair to scream that out as a sub-30-year-old stock analyst literally working on Wall Street (I didn't say WTF...). Since I was known as a real intense person that most people left alone because they were fearful of interrupting, I think my outburst surprised the team.
I then proceeded to go to the bathroom, get on the elevator, pick up a Red Bull, and head to the palatial New York Sports Club (the chain has since gone bust) across from the New York Stock Exchange to pound out 100 bench presses and 100 bicep curls.
30 minutes later, I returned to my desk a little calmer but not much (but more swoll, of course).
This was early days of the Great Financial Crisis, and yours truly had coverage of hot steaming piles of you know what in Lehman Brothers (ticker: LEH) and Washington Mutual (ticker: WM). The job (pre-crisis) basically entailed digging into financial statements, plugging numbers into Excel, coming up with price targets that fit my thesis (aka convoluted view of the world), and then communicating all of this stuff to clients.
I also had coverage of 57 retailers (it was a small shop where you cut your teeth by covering a ton of companies), ranging from Walmart (
WMT
) to Target (
TGT
) to Sears Holdings (ticker: SHLD) to Coach (now Tapestry (
TPR
)). The spreadsheet exercises were similar for conducting analysis on these companies too.
It was fun times, until it wasn't.
Seemingly every day the stock prices of well-known companies went down not a little, but Trump-style
bigly
. Every day, seas of red on my trading screen. Everything red. Everything despair. All of it breathtaking. All of it so hard to understand. And all of it a test of one's physical and mental strength. You did not go home at the peak of the crisis; at least I didn't — I just slept in our boardroom.
Some 13 years later and now a journalist and manager, I recall this after living through another full-on
market meltdown this week
. The circumstances are very different. I don't think President Trump has triggered a global financial crisis
with bruising tariffs
. But what he has caused is a reset of the investing process.
"It's impossible to pick stocks right now," one Wall Street source told me.
That person is right. Apple (
AAPL
) is a good company. Lots of recurring revenue, gazillions in hardware sales each year. CEO Tim Cook is a best-in-class operator. The stock is well off its highs amid Trump tariff worries.
But is it a good stock to buy down here? Who knows!
I dusted off my analyst skills and whipped up a super simple Excel model on Apple Thursday night. Just a couple of input lines. Assuming worst-case scenarios on costs from tariffs, I have Apple earning about $6 a share in earnings this year (
current consensus: $7.30
). Slap a 20 times PE multiple on the stock (
current: 27 times
), and Apple could be worth $120 compared to $195 today.
Note I said worst-case scenarios on
costs
, not
sales
. What if there is a recession that delays the upgrade cycle on the next iteration of the iPhone? What if prices for Apple Watches double this holiday season and consumers don't buy them? Is Apple a sub-$100 stock? Maybe, but I am wildly unsure.
I ran through this same exercise with Walmart, which is quite reliant on China for merchandise like apparel and furniture.
Assuming the worst-case scenario, with Walmart earnings of $2 this year (
current consensus: $2.64
) and a still generous 25 times PE multiple (
current: 32 times
), Walmart is a $50 stock. Today, it trades at $85.
Did I capture all the top- and bottom-line risk on Walmart, though? No clue!
I asked two of my favorite strategists how impossible it is to pick stocks right now.
Here is what they told me.
"And what I’ve been saying in my meetings lately, even before the Rose Garden [ceremony on Wednesday], is that it’s not clear to me where (for sectors and industries), new value has been unlocked. Most of the clients I talk to want to use this weakness, at least at some point, to buy things on sale. I agree with this impulse. Defensive sectors, despite what’s going on, are not where my head is at. Things like healthcare and staples aren’t interesting to me, as they are cheap but there’s big policy disruption risk. And add on consumer pressures on top of that. And I’m already overweight utilities, which is expensive.
So we want to hunt for bargains. But for a lot of these sectors, it’s hard to say what reasonable EPS assumptions are. All I know is that there are some sizable downward revisions coming. I read a lot of transcripts. Lately in addition to S&P 500 EPS transcripts, I’ve been reading those plus conference transcripts across the Russell 3000. What I see is that companies have generally given sell-side stock pickers very little color on how to think about broad-based tariffs. They seemed to be in denial that broad-based tariffs were happening. It’s been baffling. Post November, they talked a lot about China. Then after the first Mexico/Canada announcement, we got some color there. But not a ton. And even on both of those, many companies have not baked impacts into guidance or said much beyond general thoughts. They seemed to be waiting for specific policies to be announced before they would say anything specific.
One thing we did learn in the November conversations, mostly conferences, was that many companies who did move production out of China moved it to places like Vietnam, Mexico, not the US. So, from my seat, this is a huge earnings season coming up. I think that’s also probably true for many industry analysts/stock pickers. If you are looking at individual stocks that have any of these issues, I suspect it’s very hard to make assumptions about earnings that you can have confidence in."
"This isn't the environment to make big, bold calls in. Stock correlations are high, which means that all names are moving together for some bigger, broader reason (tariff and economic worries). When all stocks are moving together, it's difficult to outperform the market. I would say the same thing if stocks were moving higher together, too. Not only that, but prices are moving lower on proposed policy that hasn't been implemented yet. A good bit of this move — and the conditions around the move — could evaporate with one headline.
It's not the time to be a stock-picking hero. In this moment, you need to play defense and focus on stability. Shift into stable, profitable sectors with signs of good financial standing. We'll get some cues in earnings season comments on how companies think they'll be affected by tariffs. But for now, it's unwise to pick single names."
So there we stand, readying to take on another week of investing unknowns inside the era of Trump tariffs.
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Brian Sozzi
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